i need a new cab

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:23 pm

so in my infinite wisdom i know what killed my VOX ac100 head
it has no 4 ohm out.. and my cab is 4 ohm ... oops.. whatever. thats what warranty is for..
however i now need to pick up a new cab.. as i do not feel like blowing up my head again..

Marshall
MG412 Slanted 4x12 Cab for $299.00
Lank

or

Behringer
Bugera 4X12 200 Cab for $320
LANK

this is what i'm currently rocking:
Fender
FM 412SL Guitar Speaker Enclosure
Lank

any thoughts, suggestions? other options i'm not thinking about? budget is kind of an issue (i do not want to spend more then 400 on a cab at most.. and would really prefer around 200 - 300...) there is nothing on my local craigslist or kijiji

ohyeahfuzzbear · Post by **ohyeahfuzzbear** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:26 pm

I've got a MG412 slanted that I hardly ever use... the few times I have used it at home it's sounded pretty good... I'm hardly a tone expert though

dug · Post by **dug** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:28 pm

You could rewire the cab?

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:30 pm

nor am i... i plays the punk rock ( Lank )

my current setup is either a cp hh jag into the vox ac100cph ( Lank )
or a les paul clone into the same head, no pedals or anything else..

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:31 pm

dug wrote:You could rewire the cab?

i thought about that, i'm really not to sure how to go about it... stupid enclosed cabs.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:58 pm

It would probably make a lot more sense. It's not difficult, and regardless of the quality of your current cab, you'd end up with a better cab than if you bought another cheap one. A cheap cab with good speakers in it is going to be better than a cheap cab with cheap speakers in it.

Having said that, you should check out Freddy VC's thread on 412 cabs for an indication on how good my advice is.

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:20 pm

haha paul, you gave him the same advice that i would have given him...
so...
maybe i'll try to rewire the thing i've got a couple hours before band practice tonight..
can't be any harder then when i added a direct out to my fm212 (that cut out the speakers in the twin cab, so i could use it as a head with my 4x12)

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:32 pm

word is i can rewire my cab to be 16 ohm easier then 8 ohm ....
this is an option as the head does have 8 ohm and 16 ohm outs..

laterallateral · Post by **laterallateral** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:44 pm

All I can say is stay away from the Behringer cabs.
I used to have one and it sounded like absolute shit and was pretty poorly built.
I'm a very far cry from a tone purist but that thing was brash, even by my standards.
I thought I'd be saving money but I sold it at a considerable loss within a week of getting it.

Bite the bullet and get something good, you'll be glad you did.

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:24 pm

I'd stay away from the Marshall MG cabs too they are pretty poor - have only played through one once but it was shit!
Rewiring sounds like your best bet.

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:32 pm

the fender cab is pretty cheap itself, and if i re-wire it then my FM100H will not have anything to play through should i kill this vox again (or alternatively, i sell the fm412 and 100h.. but resale on them isn't really worth anything like maybe $250cdn..)

laterallateral · Post by **laterallateral** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:44 pm

Did you see this?

Good cab, not a bad price PLUS HAN SOLO STENCIL!

No idea what the loads are, though.

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:46 pm

that i did, the han solo stecil makes it worth the 350
i sent the dude an email, but no reply yet, i'd like to know the loads on it.

i used to play through the bass version of this cab about 4 years ago.. always liked the low end (would obviously be different for this one though)

Gavin · Post by **Gavin** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:49 pm

Quick questions while we're talking aboot cab's; Is connecting a cab with speaker cable (rather than a guitar cable) a should do or a must do?

laterallateral · Post by **laterallateral** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:49 pm

Man I can't believe what people are asking for cabs over there...
Somebody's selling a Behringer 4x12 for FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS!! ????
That is some bullshit.

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:50 pm

from my understanding its a don't do
however.. i've done it if needed to..
but it is not with promising results..
also some cabs are stereo, so using a guitar cable is useless.

serfx · Post by **serfx** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:51 pm

laterallateral wrote:Man I can't believe what people are asking for cabs over there...
Somebody's selling a Behringer 4x12 for FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS!! ????
That is some bullshit.

people around here are trying to fuck everyone else in the ass
there is a shop that got a bunch of water damaged peavy cabs in and they are still selling them for $350, and then not telling anyone they were water damaged in the peavy warehouse.. (the sales dude let it slip when a buddy of mine was chatting him up)

Thom · Post by **Thom** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:07 pm

Gavin wrote:Quick questions while we're talking aboot cab's; Is connecting a cab with speaker cable (rather than a guitar cable) a should do or a must do?

Must do. You don't want to be using a guitar lead for sure.

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:08 pm

Gavin wrote:Quick questions while we're talking aboot cab's; Is connecting a cab with speaker cable (rather than a guitar cable) a should do or a must do?

the difference is instrument cable is shielded while speaker cable is not. also, speaker cable sometimes uses fatter wire. it's probably best to always use the proper cable but I think in a pinch it would work.

edit: thom answered before I could read... latlat answered before I could edit....

laterallateral · Post by **laterallateral** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:09 pm

Though I know it must never be done, I have no idea what can be expected from doing it.
Are we looking at physical damage to the amplifier or just a drop in performance from using instrument cable on speaker cabs?

edit: Mages answered before I could read