NGD: 197x Black MapleStang

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NGD: 197x Black MapleStang

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The rails pickup in the bridge SLAYS. However the neck pickup sounds very spiky and out of phase. Wondering if the wiring is fucked up. I usually love neck position but it sounds like a tin can. I'll pop it apart tomorrow and see what's up. Any alternate wiring suggestions? And I think I may try to fit a black cover over the rail pup. Original case there, too. It weighs a ton but is super playable right now with 10s. Going to throw 11s and a wound G on it for practice tomorrow so I can properly rawk it.
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Sexy color combo!
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nice!

i had a black mustang bass from 76 that also weight a ton.
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Fuck dude, maplestang is even better doing the gilmour than sunburst.
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Congrats! Cool neck. 8)
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Even if they hooked up the bridge pickup backwards, it'll be in phase if you use the other neck position. Unless they really messed up the wiring.

Since you only really need one phase switch, the second being redundant, you could try doing something like single coil or parallel wiring on the second bridge position, if it hasn't been done already.

Vintage pickups can often sound spikey, that's why a lot of people use darker sounding fuzzes.
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Re: NGD: 197x Black MapleStang

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cobascis wrote:The rails pickup in the bridge SLAYS. However the neck pickup sounds very spiky and out of phase. Wondering if the wiring is fucked up.
If the bridge rail slays there's a good chance the pot value has been upped to 500k, which would make the neck pickup sound more trebley and bitey than stock. The out of phase thing would simply be a matter of swapping two wires on the bridge pickup's wiring, but as Fakir pointed out there's an out-of-phase switching system on Stangs so you should be able to find the regular setting unless something is flat-out wrong or ass-backwards.
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So I took it apart -- it's a 1977. Pot values are 250k, neck pickup is wired fine. I'm going to rewire the bridge for coil tapping. It's sort of a bummer that there is such a massive volume difference between the two.

But nevertheless, the neck pickup still has almost no bass response and just sounds bad. Wondering if there is something wrong with the pickup.
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Re: NGD: 197x Black MapleStang

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cobascis wrote:The rails pickup in the bridge SLAYS. However the neck pickup sounds very spiky and out of phase. Wondering if the wiring is fucked up.
If the bridge rail slays there's a good chance the pot value has been upped to 500k, which would make the neck pickup sound more trebley and bitey than stock. The out of phase thing would simply be a matter of swapping two wires on the bridge pickup's wiring.
It slays in a thick, mellow way. Super heavy sounding with distortion. 500k may be a good idea, though.
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Well, increasing the pot value could improve the sound of the stock pickup or send it even further in the direction you don't like; hard to say without hearing it.
On the plus side if you like the rail with 250ks, you could get away with sinking it a bit lower after you've increased the pot value to even out the volume level between it and the neck pickup. They may still not sound good in the same guitar in terms of their respective EQ, but it'll be a good start at improving what you don't like about their relationship.
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That's a lot like the 78 Stang I sold Malik.
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cobascis wrote:So I took it apart -- it's a 1977. Pot values are 250k, neck pickup is wired fine. I'm going to rewire the bridge for coil tapping. It's sort of a bummer that there is such a massive volume difference between the two.

But nevertheless, the neck pickup still has almost no bass response and just sounds bad. Wondering if there is something wrong with the pickup.
Have you checked DC resistance? If you have good DC resistance, but it's still weak, then the magnets may have lost their strength and will need to be remagnetized. Without expensive equipment you can check by taking the tip of a screwdriver and see if the neck has a weaker pull than the bridge. If the neck pulls weakly compared to the bridge, then the magnets have lost their strength and you will need to recharge the magnets.
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