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So we Sacked our drummer and have taken quite well to programmed drums instead.
Live we use a MPC to play the drum files from that goes to the PA. We were recommended to also use a bass amp on stage to help us hear the drums if the house PA/monitors wasn't up to it.
The first gig this worked well but the second one the sound on stage was awful.
I think we need something full range instead of a bass amp. It would also be helpful if the something was fairly portable. It needs to be loud enough to compete with loud guitars and bass on stage.

Also cheap, like sub 200 if possible.

Any suggestions?
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Would something like a keyboard amp be a better option? Luggable and full range as they usually have a mix of speakers in them to give it some low end and some high end shine.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185895146667 ... media=COPY

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Yes been looking at keyboard amps actually!

Have found a Peavey kb300 locally for 40 quid that might just be the business for now.
Like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/27590992242 ... media=COPY

Quite fancy saving up for something like this eventually
http://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Li ... nqEALw_wcB
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Hurb wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:01 am Yes been looking at keyboard amps actually!

Have found a Peavey kb300 locally for 40 quid that might just be the business for now.
Like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275909922428 ... media=COPY

Quite fancy saving up for something like this eventually
http://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lig ... nqEALw_wcB
I saw that first one you on your first link, defo looks like it would fit the bill and at £40 it’s worth a punt. Would make a good clean guitar amp as a pedal platform as well.
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Is this just for monitoring? So absolute quality, while nice, isn't really important?

If so, I'd be tempted by big keyboard and bass amps too. I realise that chucking more speakers at it probably isn't the smartest solution but fuckit, chuck more speakers at it.

In school I use these a lot both for electric kits and vocals. They also do a unpowered cab that looks identical but doesn't have the amp so you can daisy chain them. Good for onstage monitoring. I've actually used them as an impromptu PA plenty of times too, with two amp units and two cab units.
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Yeah purely for monitoring.
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Realise I didn't include the link earlier. These are the ones I use. Possibly different size. Think it's the 10" one anyway.

http://www.laney.co.uk/amps/live-sound/concept/cxp-110
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can you not just get a conductor to stand on a chair at the back of the room?
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Then you're looking at buying chairs which is a whole other thing.
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Bacchus wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:57 pm Then you're looking at buying chairs which is a whole other thing.
And most of the chairs would be in use as tone enhancing amplifier stands
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Bacchus wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:24 pm Realise I didn't include the link earlier. These are the ones I use. Possibly different size. Think it's the 10" one anyway.

http://www.laney.co.uk/amps/live-sound/concept/cxp-110
That and an extension speaker would be a decent little set up. Space them out for a bit of spread on stage.
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"Where to buy" in the Reading area: Dawson's Music, Reading. Which closed over a year ago :roll: I've messaged them.
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Bacchus wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:24 pm Realise I didn't include the link earlier. These are the ones I use. Possibly different size. Think it's the 10" one anyway.

http://www.laney.co.uk/amps/live-sound/concept/cxp-110
Looks perfect, will save up for something like this.

Picked up the 40 quid Peavey from a lovely chap. It's bigger than I wanted but sounds loud. Will take to practice this week and hopefully it does the business.

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I was going to photoshop a picture of a sansamp pedal to say sansdrummer but I ran out of steam today. I hope to back up to making pointless over executed jokes tomorrow.
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plopswagon wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:19 pm I was going to photoshop a picture of a sansamp pedal to say sansdrummer but I ran out of steam today. I hope to back up to making pointless over executed jokes tomorrow.
Out of interest I am going to try plugging my behringer sansamp pedal into it to see how it sounds with guitar. But not expecting much.
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Could sound good blended in parallel to your usual setup for those full range albini-tones. 8)
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It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to hook up 2 pair of headphones to the MPC... but it would hinder your movement :(

I'm in a similar boat, though we use an Octatrack and a Drumbrute. Luckily my partner in that band has a PA system cobbled together, so if he's not doing sound at the gig already we can supplement equipment if needed.
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gonna need a Doktor Avalanche style name for the drum machine too. There was a Palace album with drums credited to Maya Tone.
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