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Dream Box is fine with or without a buffer - The Dist2 actually has an input buffer (op-amp), and the op-amp muff is not fussy.

Like others have said if you notice treble drop off, lack or sparkle or spank or whatever just whack a buffer front and back and see where you're at.

I know when I had lots of pedals on my board I used to opt for a DT-10 tuner up front rather than the pitchblack to get that buffer goodness

That Klon I built you has an always on buffer BTW, so that will be doing some heavy lifting for you - that's why your guitar tone is so good - because of me.

Good to know that about the Dream Box.

The magic always on buffer is precisely why I put the Klon back on there. The fact that it sounds brilliant as a drive pedal too is something of a bonus, in a weird way.

True buffers are in the fingers anyway.

I offer "Vampire Slayer" as a potential name for a buffer. Kills tone suck and is an appropriately dreadful pun.

Tell me it's already been done....

A podcast got close:

Bacchus wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:39 pm Yeah, just read that. I've read around and found other people who have had noise issues with the OC-3.

I'll leave it for now and see how annoying it actually is in a band setting. There's also the option of the noise gate in the M13.

Had a practice last week, listened back to the recordings yesterday and yep, that OC-3 whine is very annoying.

Think I'll have to remove it from the board and rely on Whammy and M13 for my durty octave down sounds.

I had similar things with my PS-5 years back, as I was/am sure it wasn't getting enough current from the daisychain power supply. Ended-up putting the PS-5 on its own cheapo adaptor and the problem went away; looks like the OC-3 is 50mA also.

It currently has its own, dedicated supply from the Isobrick, so it's getting at least 100mA from an isolated supply. I'd have hoped that would be the same as a dedicated wall wart style dealio, but I'll give it a go. Not sure how keen I would be on using another power cable to my pedal board, but I'm nosey about it enough to find out.

Finally sussed this. It wasn't the OC-3 after all, it was the Whammy. Whammy and Memory Man now on their own supplies, the OC-3 is actually happy enough to be daisy chained with some drive pedals.

Doesn't surprise me, my Digitech Drop adds whine if not on its own psu.

I knew the Memory Man could be tricky, but I don't remember the Whammy being so.

I think in my head, the fact that the WH-5 is true bypass and used a normal power supply (in contrast with all the previous Whammies) made me think that it was therefore fool-proof and unlikely to be the culprit.