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Posted: **Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:04 pm**

I hit the jackpot some dude was selling them out of the back of a van under the freeway

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Posted: **Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:08 pm**

IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll trade you this for the lot

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batsbrew wrote:

just thought i'd share, in case anyone else is thinking about custom builds.

The Williams Special

The Williams Special is a Les Paul-Strat-Mustang-Explorer hybrid, with hollow body cavities, Mustang scale length,
built like a paul with mahagony and maple top, with vintage-dimension strat body, explorer headstock.

(semi-related: my first 'good' guitar was a '75 Fender Mustang.)

This guitar was commissioned in 1986.

It is a Gibson Les paul-Fender strat-Fender mustang-Gibson explorer HYBRID.
-built by Stan Williams, Rome Georgia.

-based on the Fender Mustang scale length at 24.0"....this design is also similar to brian may's red special.

*honduras mahogany body, with air cavities carved in the body below the maple top.
*flame maple top, 3/8" thick.
*vintage-dimension strat body.
*2-piece flame maple neck, with ebony fingerboard.
*no truss rod!
there are (2) rectangular pieces of aircraft aluminum running the length of the fretboard.
*flame maple veneer on headstock; front, sides, and back.
*jumbo frets, nickle alloy
*custom inlays: mother of pearl, diamond shape, with a split diamond around the center pickup.
*Kahler 2300 pro tremelo.
*(3) off/on switches
*master volume, master tone, 3rd pot now unwired-
*Pickups: originally equipped with a EMG SA assembly, and the 3rd knob was the presence control.
--now has (2) bill lawrence L-280's, and a duncan Little 59 humbucker in the bridge.
*explorer headstock shape, true to scale.
*long tenon set neck
*13 degree tilt back headstock
*graphtec nut, with locking kahler nut mounted behind it.

*Wood: the Flame maple used on the top and neck, and veneers, was from a large timber
(143 years old as of 2018) salvaged from a barn in Illinois.

The honduras was acquired long before there were conservation laws on that particular wood
(blank dates back to pre-1980).

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design criteria:

the les paul connection:
the basics of the les paul (the obvious basics) are:

slab mahogony body;
maple top;
strings on top of body;
2 piece maple neck;
glued in neck, long tenon;
tilt back headstock, no string trees required.

later, in 2008, they started weight relieving the standards, but remember, i built this in 1986.
so, the Gibson nod starts there.

This one has:
Honduras mahagony body -- maple top -- strings on top of body via the Kahler -- 2 piece maple neck
-- a glued in neck with long tenon -- tilt back headstock.

My design tried to improve on my favorite aspects of the 4 different guitars, the mustang, explorer, strat and paul.

for example:

*the volute on the explorer headstock is inherently stronger than the les paul (commonly known over time for breaks at the neck),
plus i liked the headstock shape

*the weight relief is secondary-- the sound cavities i had routed strictly for that semi-acoustic property,
making the guitar, at stage volume, extremely lively - this followed the basics of the Brian May Red Special,
which was my starting point. his guitar is designed more like a 335 than mine, but i went there as much as i could
without floating the top over a central beam

*the ebony fretboard brings out more les paul-style tonal characteristics than, say, a rosewood fretboard would have

*the glue in neck was a must, and unlike the les paul, which has that awkward heel, mine is smoothed out right into the back of the body, without so
much as a line, almost invisible. the tonal effect with the glued in neck, and the long tenon is an obvious connection to the les paul lineage

*the tilt back headstock was unnecessary with the kahler locking nut, but i added it anyway,
feeling that the downward pressure of the strings still helps to maintain a strong connection to the neck,
vibration wise, and this is very much in les paul territory

*the strings on top, versus thru the body, is a very important link to the overall sound,
and the use of the kahler is a great way to bridge the gap between a stop tailpiece and a floating trem.

*though Kahler did not have it then, they now have a 'hybrid' tailpiece, that can lock as a hard tail, or float as a trem.
best of both. i have one on my '84 Carvin DC200k, and will eventually updgrade this one with one as well.

Posted: **Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:20 pm**

A+ thread would read again

Posted: **Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:47 pm**

What no Swinger or Marauder?

Posted: **Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:00 pm**

NickS wrote:What no Swinger or Marauder?

I want one that can do both swinging and marauding

Posted: **Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:17 pm**

plopswagon wrote:I hit the jackpot some dude was selling them out of the back of a van under the freeway

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1965 FENDER JAGUAR OLY WHITE - 137611
1964 FENDER JAZZMASTER OLY WHITE 126552
2004 FENDER Custom Shop BLACK GLD HARDWARE - Robby Z Custom - Masterbuilt. (Robby Z inlay on 12th fret)
1978 FENDER P-BASS ANTIGUA 5877797
1978 FENDER STRATOCASTER ANTIGUA 5918850
1954 GIBSON ES175 BLONDE A18094
1966 FENDER BASS V SUNBURST 251348
1967 FENDER BRONCO RED 215004
1967 FENDER CORONADO II DAPHNE BLUE 5824148
1967 FENDER CORONADO II RED/ORANGE F201030
1964 FENDER DUO SONIC RED L52241
1964 FENDER DUO SONIC FIESTA RED 138389
1983 FENDER ESPIRIT WHITE B010370
1963 FENDER JAGUAR - BLACK GOLD HARDWARE L12124
1964 FENDER JAGUAR - SHERWOOD GREEN - GOLD HARDWARE L69051
1965 FENDER JAGUAR BLACK L83734
1965 FENDER JAGUAR - OCEAN TURQUOISE L80872
1966 FENDER JAGUAR CAR - BLOCK MARKERS. 172733
1966 FENDER JAGUAR FIREMIST GOLD L863**
1966 FENDER JAGUAR GOLD SPARKLE 115133
1968 FENDER JAGUAR LAKE PLACID BLUE GLD HARDWARE 373266
1966 FENDER JAGUAR LAKE PLACID BLUE 140209
1963 FENDER JAGUAR SEAFOAM GREEN L21739
1963 FENDER JAGUAR SEAFOAM GREEN RE-FIN 140284
1964 FENDER JAGUAR - SHELL PINK - RE-FIN L25454
1964 FENDER JAGUAR SEAFOAM GREEN L73995
1963 FENDER JAGUAR SONIC BLUE L32293
1966 FENDER JAGUAR SONIC BLUE TURNED GREEN - BLOCK MARKERS 234397
1966 FENDER JAGUAR SONIC BLUE W BLOCKS. 240144
1965 FENDER JAGUAR SURF GREEN 104066
1959 FENDER JAZZMASTER - BLONDE - GOLD HARDWARE 46450
1965 FENDER JAZZMASTER BLACK 112243
1965 FENDER JAZZMASTER BLONDE 105452
1964 FENDER JAZZMASTER CANDY APPLE RED L47291
1963 FENDER JAZZMASTER FIESTA RED L20860
1965 FENDER JAZZMASTER ICE BLUE METALLIC L75069
1966 FENDER JAZZMASTER ICE BLUE METALLIC BLOCKS 176735
1963 FENDER JAZZMASTER SEAFOAM GREEN L15067
1965 FENDER JAZZMASTER SONIC BLUE L52678
1965 FENDER JAZZMASTER - SURF GREEN L68604
1971 FENDER LTD SUNBURST 18
1966 FENDER MUSTANG BLUE 159766
1965 FENDER MUSTANG RED 122191
1964 FENDER MUSICMASTER CREAM L61665
1999 FENDER ROBBEN FORD SUNBURST 6F064
1966 FENDER STRATOCASTER CANDY APPLE RED 152517
1996 FENDER STRATOCASTER FIESTA RED CUSTOM SHOP CN608863
1989 FENDER STRATOCASTER GOLD HLE- #02

1998 FENDER STRATOCASTER - DELUXE FAT STRAT GREEN DN810123
1986 FENDER STRATOCASTER SUNBURST 62' REISSUE V022783
1968 FENDER TELECASTER BLACK 148068
1969 FENDER TELECASTER SONIC BLUE TURNED GREEN. 886537.
1968 FENDER TELECASTER LAKE PLACID BLUE 251718
1965 FENDER TELECASTER LAKE PLACID BLUE GOLD HARDWARE L67938
1995 FENDER TELECASTER WHITE SJ SHARKS 001
1968 FENDER TELECASTER THINLINE BLACK SEE PHOTO
1968 GIBSON BARNEY KESSEL CUSTOM SUNBURST 893313
2004 GIBSON ES335 BLACK FASHION ROCKS SIGNED see photo
1998 GIBSON ES335 BLONDE REISSUE A99087
1963 GIBSON ES125TD CHERRY BURST 369074
1953 GIBSON ES295 GOLD A15939
1962 GIBSON ES330 SUNBURST - 47378
1961 GIBSON ES140-3/4 SUNBURST 380428
1968 GIBSON LES PAUL GOLDTOP 530374
1995 GIBSON LES PAUL HERITAGE CLASSIC 50111
1959 GOYA 80 BLACK 460/001
1959 GOYA 80 BLUE SPARKLE 477/331
1959 GOYA 80 BLUE SPARKLE 180/254
1959 GOYA 80 BLUE SPARKLE 485/297
1959 GOYA 80 BLUE SPARKLE MISSING PLATE
1959 GOYA 80 GOLD SPARKLE 477/110
1959 GOYA 80 GOLD SPARKLE 477/132
1959 GOYA 80 RED SPARKLE 477/284
1961 GRETSCH AL CAIOLA BLONDE PROTO-TYPE
1955 GRETSCH COUNTRY CLUB BLONDE 26164
2002 CHARLIE HALL NO MODEL NATURAL ACOUSTIC-ELECTRIC 0101
1959 HAGSTROM P-24 WHITE PEARL 508187
1959 HAGSTROM P-24 BLUE SPARKLE 483149
1959 HAGSTROM P-24 RED SPARKLE 466/113
2001 PRS SANTANA II AMBER 153493
1991 PRS ARTIST AMBER SIGNED #690 SANTANA 19094
1999 PRS McCARTY AMBER 420101
1995 PRS ARCHTOP II AMBER BURST 837205
1998 PRS HOLLOWBODY II VIOLIN BURST 944595
1995 R.C. ALLEN ARCHTOP BLONDE 1026
1960 SUPRO STUDENT BLUE KIT W/AMP G37304
1995 WASHBURN D-16 NATURAL 12 STRING SIGNED STEVE MILLER
1971 FENDER CUSTOM - SB 308132
1978 FENDER TELE DELUXE - ANTIGUA S806889
1978 FENDER CORONADO ANTIGUA 283522

1965 FENDER JAGUAR - BLONDE GOLD HARDWARE L68363
1998 FENDER STRATOCASTER - SEAFOAM GREEN - CUSTOM SHOP CN883916
1966 FENDER STRATOCASTER - LPB TURNED GREEN **1685
1966 FENDER STRATOCASTER - BLACK - 168**7
1969 FENDER BASS VI - BLACK - BLOCK MARKERS 245077
1966 VOX HOLLOW BODY - RED 258270
1966 EPIPHONE CASINO - TAN 811822
1961 GIBSON LES PAUL JUNIOR - SUNBURST - SIGNED BY LES PAUL 68744
1966 FENDER JAGUAR - LAKE PLACID BLUE 238503
1966 FENDER JAZZMASTER - OLYMPIC WHITE 120676
1999 FENDER STRATOCASTER - SAN JOSE SHARKS 001
1978 FENDER MUSTANG BASS - ANTIGUA 5824148

Serial numbers forthcoming...

2015 DANELECTRO HORNET - "67" - BLUE
2015 DANELECTRO HORNET - "67" CORAL
1973 FENDER D'AQUISTO - BLONDE
1978 FENDER JAZZ BASS - ANTIGUA
1978 FENDER TELECASTER - ANTIGUA
1968 FENDER TELECASTER THINLINE - BLONDE
1953 GIBSON ES225 - BLONDE
1955 GRETSCH MODEL 6191 - BLONDE
2012 EPIPHONE FLYING V - WHITE GOLD HARDWARE
1980 ELECTRA LES PAUL - NATURAL - FLAME
1968 FENDER CORONADO II - LAKE PLACID BLUE
1968 FENDER CORONADO II - SURF GREEN
1967 FENDER CORONADO II - SONIC BLUE
1964 FENDER JAGUAR - BLACK GOLD HARDWARE
1965 FENDER JAGUAR - BLONDE GOLD HARDWARE
1965 FENDER JAGUAR - BLONDE
1964 FENDER JAGUAR - BURGUNDY MIST
1962 FENDER JAGUAR - CORAL PINK RE- FIN
1966 FENDER JAGUAR - CHARCOAL FROST
1966 FENDER JAGUAR - CHARCOAL FROST
1964 FENDER JAGUAR - DAKOTA RED
1964 FENDER JAGUAR - FIESTA RED
1966 FENDER JAGUAR - FIREMIST GOLD - BLOCKS MARKERS
1965 FENDER JAGUAR - ICE BLUE METALLIC
1965 FENDER JAGUAR - ICE BLUE METALLIC
1965 FENDER JAGUAR - INCA SILVER

1971 FENDER JAGUAR - OCEAN TURQUOISE - MAPLE NECK
1965 FENDER JAGUAR - OCEAN TURQUOISE
1964 FENDER JAGUAR - SHORELINE GOLD
1965 FENDER JAGUAR - SUNBURST - MINT
1966 FENDER JAGUAR - TEAL GREEN METALLIC - BLOCK MARKERS
1961 FENDER JAZZMASTER - BURGUNDY MIST
1961 FENDER JAZZMASTER - BURGUNDY MIST
1964 FENDER JAZZMASTER - CANDY APPLE RED
1966 FENDER JAZZMASTER - DAKOTA RED
1965 FENDER JAZZMASTER - SHORELINE GOLD
1961 FENDER JAZZMASTER - SUNBURST
1965 FENDER JAZZMASTER - SHERWOOD GREEN
1964 FENDER MUSICMASTER - BLACK
1979 FENDER STRATOCASTER - CAPRI ORANGE
1979 FENDER STRATOCASTER - SAHARA TAUPE
1966 FENDER STRATOCASTER - SUNBURST
1967 FENDER STRATOCASTER - SUNBURST - BEAT 6/10 CONDITION
1983 FENDER STRATOCASTER - WALNUT ELITE
1976 GIBSON L6S - BLONDE
1959 GOYA BASS - RED SPARKLE
1946 GIBSON ES300 - SUNBURST
1962 SILVERTONE - BLACK
1995 SIMON & PATRICK - NATURAL - ACOUSTIC
1961 SUPRO - BLACK
2000 RICK TURNER THIN BODY - NATURAL
2004 WARRIOR - AMBER
BLACKFACE FENDER AMPS - SUPER REVERB, VIBROVERB, VIBROLUX, DELUXE REVERB, TWIN REVERB, SUPER REVERB
TWEED FENDER AMPS - '59 SUPER, DELUXE, CHAMP, PRINCETON
1965 GIBSON ES-175 - SUNBURST
1966 FENDER STRATOCASTER - LPB TURNED GREEN
2019 FENDER STRATOCASTER - OAKLAND A'S CUSTOM PAINTED WITH BASEBALL BAT
1973 FENDER P-BASS - BLACK
1979 FENDER STRATOCASTER - CAPRI ORANGE
1968 FENDER JAGUAR - LPB - MAPLE NECK - GOLD PARTS
1962 GIBSON ES-125TD - CHERRYBURST
1966 FENDER JAGUAR - OLYMPIC WHITE TURNED YELLOW - BLOCK MARKERS
1965 GIBSON ES-125TD - CHERRYBURST
1973 FENDER STRATOCASTER - BLACK
1970 GIBSON ES-335 - MINT

AMPS

1966 FENDER VIBROLUX - #00678
1966 FENDER BASSMAN - A12389
1965 FENDER TWIN REVERB
1966 FENDER VIBROVERB
1955 FENDER PRINCETON - TWEED - TV FACE
1965 FENDER SUPER REVERB
1965 FENDER DELUXE REVERB
1966 FENDER PRO REVERB
1955 FENDER CHAMP - TWEED
1959 FENDER DELUXE - TWEED
1966 FENDER PRO REVERB (2ND ONE)
1959 FENDER SUPER - TWEED
SUPRO - STUDENT AMP - BLUE
GRETSCH - ELECTROMATIC - BROWN
SILVERTONE - 1333 MODEL - TWEED
1955 MAGNATONE - BLUE MOTHER OF PEARL
1958 SILVERTONE - MODEL 1430 - BROWN
1950 GIBSON - CREAM/PINK
2000 ROLAND - KC300

I'd have had to tell him to jog on I want a firebird.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:37 am**

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:00 am**

We could do a proper guitar fight when you smash guitars against each other until one is completely broken. The last standing guitar gets a new set of strings

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:01 pm**

sunshiner wrote:We could do a proper guitar fight when you smash guitars against each other until one is completely broken. The last standing guitar gets a new set of strings capo

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:14 pm**

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:06 pm**

I really hope you picked up the 2000 Roland KC-300.

Posted: **Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:50 pm**

you can prolly get roobs to trade his house for that oakland A's fat strat (just tell him it's a big duo, he won't know).

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:37 pm**

Nick wrote:A+ thread would read again

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