what is it about the jag-stang neck

[esteban]

man this topic AGAIN?

i searched "jag-stang neck" before i posted this, and lo and behold, nothing!

it might have to do with all the technical difficulties that have forced me to be a noob with one post 3 times already, but oh well. still a valid question.

[stewart]

if i take your teory, i would have to think, that all the mustangs necks are the same, which they are obviously NOT. just take the 69 reissue and the 65 reissue, they are different, feel it! the 65 is really thick, like a vintage 65 mustang, and the 69 is thinner, like vintage competition series and the 70s mustangs. they made a different neck. i have a friend who now has all the mustangs i talk about, he has 4 actualy and he also says 65 is different than 69. another friend who has vintage mustangs also admits it.
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i could be wrong, but assuming the above is true, would that not suggest that a jagstang neck made in, say, 1997 could conceivably be totally different from one made yesterday?

so if not all mustang necks are identical, the same could be said of jagstang ones. from a logical 'cost' point of view, you'd think they would just use mustang necks, and maybe they do, but the necks are from differing batches of mustangs.

unless someone is cross comparing jagstangs and mustangs from different periods of production you'll never have a definitive answer. or unless fender US or UK were able to provide more info...

[Fran]

There's a few of us that swear the Jag-Stang suffered inconsistency in quality, maybe from one batch/year to another, not sure about 'feel' though.

I think Arsecake has a reissue Mustang and a JS, what's his opinion on the comparison?

[aphasiac]

man this topic AGAIN?

i searched "jag-stang neck" before i posted this, and lo and behold, nothing!

it probably got lost a few months back when a ton of old posts got deleted.

anyway dont worry it's an interesting topic. i personally loved the jag-stang neck, probably my favourite neck ever due to how small it is; man you can wear that guitar low. problem was the rest of the guitar didnt give me the sound i was after so i sold it.

but great guitars; if i become famour or start touring or something, id buy one again.

[BobArsecake]

There's a few of us that swear the Jag-Stang suffered inconsistency in quality, maybe from one batch/year to another, not sure about 'feel' though.

I think Arsecake has a reissue Mustang and a JS, what's his opinion on the comparison?

Yeah, I prefer the neck on my Jag-Stang, it feels a bit thinner and to be honest, better made than the one on my '69 Mustang. Though my Mustang is from '97 and if people complain about the poorer quality Jag-Stang neck from around '97 then that might be more than coincidence. A same year Jag-Stang and Mustang need to be checked, really.

Right, I've just measured, had to use the bit of string and a rule method, and it had to go around the strings as well, but here's what that said;

Width at nut;

Jag-Stang: 114mm
'69 RI Mustang: 112mm

However, bear in mind that the strings on my JS are .11s, and .10s on the Mustang, and that I was using a bit of string and marking it with a pen to measure.

So it's either iN oUr MiNdS, same necks but quality differs between years/batches, or the JS neck is indeed custom.

[Fran]

There's a few of us that swear the Jag-Stang suffered inconsistency in quality, maybe from one batch/year to another, not sure about 'feel' though.

I think Arsecake has a reissue Mustang and a JS, what's his opinion on the comparison?

Yeah, I prefer the neck on my Jag-Stang, it feels a bit thinner and to be honest, better made than the one on my '69 Mustang. Though my Mustang is from '97 and if people complain about the poorer quality Jag-Stang neck from around '97 then that might be more than coincidence. A same year Jag-Stang and Mustang need to be checked, really.

Right, I've just measured, had to use the bit of string and a rule method, and it had to go around the strings as well, but here's what that said;

Width at nut;

Jag-Stang: 114mm
'69 RI Mustang: 112mm

However, bear in mind that the strings on my JS are .11s, and .10s on the Mustang, and that I was using a bit of string and marking it with a pen to measure.

So it's either iN oUr MiNdS, same necks but quality differs between years/batches, or the JS neck is indeed custom.

Nice one. Very interesting that it is smaller than the smaller 69 neck, and also confirms what i said about the comparison to the 65 AV neck.

Either way, both arguments are quite possible.

I've searched the net and found nothing. It would be nice to get a confirmation off someone in the know that is'nt either bullshitting or second guessing.

[Mike]

Nice one for doing that Jon. I still think they're the same, since your measurement was shoddy as fuck.

You said it feels thinner and measured it as thicker? What does that tell you?



It's pretty much elementary as far as I'm concerned, a more fat neck ala the '72 Telecaster Deluxe/Baja Telecaster is what I prefer.

[Mike]

smaller than the smaller 69 neck, and also confirms what i said about the comparison to the 65 AV neck.

What's this 65 AV thing you're talking about? The 65 Reissue is made in Japan, same as the '69, and the Competition Reissues.

[Fran]

You said it feels thinner and measured it as thicker?

Thicker being the wrong word, he means wider on the width of the nut. I was talking about the girth or circumfrance if you like. Not sure of the technical term, i just play the damn things.
My Surfcaster has a wide flat fretboard but the neck is ultra skinny.

[Fran]

smaller than the smaller 69 neck, and also confirms what i said about the comparison to the 65 AV neck.

What's this 65 AV thing you're talking about? The 65 Reissue is made in Japan, same as the '69, and the Competition Reissues.

1965 vintage Mustang neck, not reissue. I dont own a reissue so i cant comment on one.

[Mike]

He did measure the girth. He said he had to go round the strings.

We'll need Jon to confirm what on earth he did and maybe measure the 12th fret also but this is all just fueling what I suspected.

[Mike]

smaller than the smaller 69 neck, and also confirms what i said about the comparison to the 65 AV neck.

What's this 65 AV thing you're talking about? The 65 Reissue is made in Japan, same as the '69, and the Competition Reissues.

1965 vintage Mustang neck, not reissue. I dont own a reissue so i cant comment on one.

Don't call it an AV then. That's American Vintage series.

Just call it a '65 neck.

[Fran]

Taylor/dressmakers tape!!

49p from Wilkos Jon.

[Fran]

What's this 65 AV thing you're talking about? The 65 Reissue is made in Japan, same as the '69, and the Competition Reissues.

1965 vintage Mustang neck, not reissue. I dont own a reissue so i cant comment on one.

Don't call it an AV then. That's American Vintage series.

Just call it a '65 neck.

I thought it would be obvious as there has never been an American Vintage Series Mustang, only the original AV (american vintage) and Jap. Dont you mean AVRI?

[Mike]

1965 vintage Mustang neck, not reissue. I dont own a reissue so i cant comment on one.

Don't call it an AV then. That's American Vintage series.

Just call it a '65 neck.

I thought it would be obvious as there has never been an American Vintage Series Mustang, only the original AV (american vintage) and Jap. Dont you mean AVRI?

A lot of people (me included) weren't aware of the origin of the new '65 RI. I thought it was Mexican originally.

People use AV as a term for the American Jag and Jazzmaster all the time.

[Mike]

only the original AV (american vintage)

Don't call it that.

[BobArsecake]

I measured the fretboard side of the nut, going over the strings. What I meant by the thinner comment is the back of the neck, it feels smaller than the Mustang. But yeah, the measuring isn't near particularly accurate, I couldn't fine a tape measure, is all.

[Mike]

Why didn't you wrap the string around the whole neck? You would need that and an accurate width measurement at the nut to infer anything about the neck profile.

[aphasiac]

nut AND 12th fret measurements would be more useful.

[BobArsecake]

I only did it in a hurry :(