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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 6:43 pm    Post subject: Looking for an electric guitar with a zero fret... Reply with quote

Preferably solid body, and without a Gretsch price tag.
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burns, baby, Burns.
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

benecol wrote:
Burns, baby, Burns.


Do they all have it?
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also danos have an aluminium nut
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nearly certain I saw something with a zero fret in a local pawn shop. I'll have a gander on monday for you.

Weirdly (and I really ought to have taken a photo of this) they had a Japanese acoustic with a locking nut, but obviously not a floyd rose. Such a weird addition to a guitar.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.zeroglide.com

This system may be of interest.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gabriel wrote:
https://www.zeroglide.com

This system may be of interest.


I was looking at this yesterday, not sure I'd want to take a chance with it on one of my good guitars.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Czech Iolanas have zero fret. And they are super odd and at the same time cool guitars. The major cons though are that they are super heavy (maple or birch bodies) and a lack of original hardware to replace broken parts.
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of East European guitars had zero frets: Bulgarian, Romanian, Polish, Soviet, I think even Yugoslav.

By the way, some Jolanas are small and light like the Galaxis:

I agree with sunshiner that they are often in not that good condition.

Also a lot of the cheap 1960s and 70s Japanese guitars have zero frets.
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.hallmarkguitars.com/
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new Les Pauls have a zero fret
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dezb1 wrote:
benecol wrote:
Burns, baby, Burns.


Do they all have it?

I think the Marquee does, the Cobras don't.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THIS is a great deal if it stays low. It's actually a higher spec Shadow model not a Marquee, with tri-sonics and Burns hardcase.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is actually the benefit of having a zero fret?
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

None imo. It acts as a nut and the nut itself just holds the strings in line. Brighter sound maybe?
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wikipedia wrote:
The zero fret is primarily used to reduce production costs.[disputed ] The zero fret was commonly (but not exclusively) associated with cheaper instruments, since the cost of the labor involved in making a nut with slots carefully filed to the correct height is greater than the labor required to install a zero fret.[disputed ]

It is claimed that with a zero fret, the sound of an open string more closely approximates the sound of a fretted string as compared to the open string sound on a guitar with no zero fret. Countering this claim are musicians who feel that a bone or even synthetic nut will enhance the overall tone of the instrument regardless of the string being played open or fretted. Since tone is so subjective, the two claims are likely to continue perpetually.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddy V-C wrote:
What is actually the benefit of having a zero fret?


The open chords sound different, as they sound fretted. Like if you had a capo on
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dezb1 wrote:
Freddy V-C wrote:
What is actually the benefit of having a zero fret?

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dezb1 wrote:
Freddy V-C wrote:
What is actually the benefit of having a zero fret?


The open chords sound different, as they sound fretted. Like if you had a capo on


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that Burns went dirt cheap, did you check it out dez?
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