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George
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i feel the trem lock is too helpful when gauging how to set the trem up to go without one for that money. i suppose its an easy swap for pedants like me
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, which Fenders don't have the trem lock? The Chinese Fender Modern Player Jazzmaster I got a few months ago has one. I can't understand why other Fenders out there don't have one? How do they justify that if even the Chinese models get one?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Blacktop Jazzmaster doesn't. Think that's MIM like these.
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I'm just going to smash it in with a hammer and hope it works. Tone is all in the fingers anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well fuck. That's like a 200-300 price difference in some cases, with the more expensive models getting the less functional trem. That's bizarro world stuff there.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"responding to consumer demands" or "streamlining functionality", or something vapid like that
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"maintaining a difference between these and the AV65s"
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I'm just going to smash it in with a hammer and hope it works. Tone is all in the fingers anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how many muggles are out there right now who have never giving their trem lock a second glance...

thanks a lot guys
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what the fuck is the point of the lock? to not go out of tune during a string break, right?

wtf good is that? I've broken strings like twice in 10 years. fuck an lock
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

people use it for that i suppose

i actually think its important to have to set the trem up optimally. if the lock slides in and out perfectly while also locking the trem at pitch, you're in the correct position
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it supposed to lock the trem into a hardtail? Because the one on my Jaguar doesn't, and that would literally be the only cool thing it could do for me.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. You can still push the trem down when the lock engaged, just not pull it up.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BearBoy wrote:
No. You can still push the trem down when the lock engaged, just not pull it up.

Neat.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it stops the trem from being able to do upward travel only (you can still push down on it) so it's nots really a proper hardtail i guess. tbh i think a jag trem without the arm attached is as hardtailed as it needs. you have to really lean or push into the collet that protrudes the trem plate to get the trem moving by accident, which the lock won't even stop, and i don't even know how you'd pull the trem up by accident unless there's an arm attached.

but a staytrem arm set up properly with a trem lock as a guide is invincible. best trem imo
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robroe wrote:
FUCK BIG FRETS


Rob,

check out the specs: 7.25 radius and vintage fret wire! Very Happy

http://www.nstuffmusic.com/p-35620-fender-60s-jazzmaster-lacquer-electric-guitar.aspx
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theshadowofseattle wrote:
what the fuck is the point of the lock? to not go out of tune during a string break, right?

wtf good is that? I've broken strings like twice in 10 years. fuck an lock



back in the old days people used .005's instead of .13's
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



doesn't look orangey enough

maybe its the white guard that makes it look like shit.

maybe I'm just pissed because I had myself a jaguar in a rare color the last 5 years


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno about these. I loved my Classic Player Jag when I had it. No complaints about the bridge or the placement of the vibrato plate. (I had to let it go for financial reasons Sad )

Whatevs.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robroe wrote:

doesn't look orangey enough


Sure looks almost Dakotish from over here.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BearBoy wrote:
No. You can still push the trem down when the lock engaged, just not pull it up.


Not on my '66, it locks it completely (although that could be partly to do with how the trem is set).
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I think some locks have a groove cut into them so if you engage them correctly it locks the trem from moving up and down. Pretty sure I noticed that on my Japanese Jaguar last time I opened it up. Never really use it and it's at a friends house at the moment so I can't check. It's possible that it only does that on the certain models but my Jag was all busted to fuckery when I got it and I ended up replacing a ton of bits on the trem and I'm not sure where some of the parts came from.
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