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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gusman2x wrote:
Fakir Mustache wrote:
^ did you put some kind of lubricant on the nut? You need to do that.


Yeah, i used a lot of lead from a propelling pencil on the nut slots, and also the bridge slots.

I will screw the cigar tube down a bit more though. There's still a few mm before the strings make contact with bridge behind the bridge.

It's definitely a ton better, but it's nowhere near as stable as my jag or jm.

I find it's the TOM on my KC. My old Mustang and my Jagstang were/are much more stable. I think the strings just catch on the TOM, and I'm going to install a roller bridge when I get round to it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lock that shit! Buy a Jaguar for a tremolo. haha nah thats cool though, a mustang trem setup properly works awesomely. I saw mad mike doing dive bombs on his. It just takes a lot of work.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

congrats to your mustang!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, who is Mad Mike? I've seen that some peolpe talk about him here on shortscale: he must be a genius in setting mustangs/offset guitars...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Golden_Sonic wrote:
Well, who is Mad Mike? I've seen that some peolpe talk about him here on shortscale: he must be a genius in setting mustangs/offset guitars...


He was a member on the Jag-Stang forum. I don't know if he has an account on ss or osg. His jagstang even had emgs in it if I remember right. He did something with luvricating the nut, springs, saddles, and the spring tension.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


Link


Other videos on his channel are helpful too.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mo Rawka wrote:

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Other videos on his channel are helpful too.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thom wrote:
gusman2x wrote:
Fakir Mustache wrote:
^ did you put some kind of lubricant on the nut? You need to do that.


Yeah, i used a lot of lead from a propelling pencil on the nut slots, and also the bridge slots.

I will screw the cigar tube down a bit more though. There's still a few mm before the strings make contact with bridge behind the bridge.

It's definitely a ton better, but it's nowhere near as stable as my jag or jm.

I find it's the TOM on my KC. My old Mustang and my Jagstang were/are much more stable. I think the strings just catch on the TOM, and I'm going to install a roller bridge when I get round to it.


i can not understand your problem with the kc mustang, i have with a tunomatic and mustang like trem both works very well.
and the seymour duncan jb makes a stang go waaaaang.

You didnt try the guitar before you bought it?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weeping_moon wrote:
makes a stang go waaaaang.


STANG WANG
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

weeping_moon wrote:
Thom wrote:
gusman2x wrote:
Fakir Mustache wrote:
^ did you put some kind of lubricant on the nut? You need to do that.


Yeah, i used a lot of lead from a propelling pencil on the nut slots, and also the bridge slots.

I will screw the cigar tube down a bit more though. There's still a few mm before the strings make contact with bridge behind the bridge.

It's definitely a ton better, but it's nowhere near as stable as my jag or jm.

I find it's the TOM on my KC. My old Mustang and my Jagstang were/are much more stable. I think the strings just catch on the TOM, and I'm going to install a roller bridge when I get round to it.


i can not understand your problem with the kc mustang, i have with a tunomatic and mustang like trem both works very well.
and the seymour duncan jb makes a stang go waaaaang.

You didnt try the guitar before you bought it?


For sure i did, but i never really find that trems are set up well in the shop. I also understood that most players do not use the mustang trems due to their perceived short comings. But now i want to try.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gusman2x wrote:
weeping_moon wrote:
Thom wrote:
gusman2x wrote:
Fakir Mustache wrote:
^ did you put some kind of lubricant on the nut? You need to do that.


Yeah, i used a lot of lead from a propelling pencil on the nut slots, and also the bridge slots.

I will screw the cigar tube down a bit more though. There's still a few mm before the strings make contact with bridge behind the bridge.

It's definitely a ton better, but it's nowhere near as stable as my jag or jm.

I find it's the TOM on my KC. My old Mustang and my Jagstang were/are much more stable. I think the strings just catch on the TOM, and I'm going to install a roller bridge when I get round to it.


i can not understand your problem with the kc mustang, i have with a tunomatic and mustang like trem both works very well.
and the seymour duncan jb makes a stang go waaaaang.

You didnt try the guitar before you bought it?


For sure i did, but i never really find that trems are set up well in the shop. I also understood that most players do not use the mustang trems due to their perceived short comings. But now i want to try.


I can tell you. Anyway for my playing i dont need the regular mustang system. Fuch i even play the american mustang.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guitars have to be set-up on a case by case basis, no two are exactly alike and even different tolerances/wear on metal bits and who installed them, and how, make a difference. Then there's and personal setup preference and playing style/technique to take into consideration.
A lot of Mustangs and Jag-Stangs don't stay in tune with plenty of researched attention given to their setup. The trems on most MIM/Squier Strats I've tinkered with wouldn't setup right for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul_ wrote:
Guitars have to be set-up on a case by case basis, no two are exactly alike and even different tolerances/wear on metal bits and who installed them, and how, make a difference. Then there's and personal setup preference and playing style/technique to take into consideration.
A lot of Mustangs and Jag-Stangs don't stay in tune with plenty of researched attention given to their setup. The trems on most MIM/Squier Strats I've tinkered with wouldn't setup right for me.


This! personal setup preference and playing style/technique to take into consideration.

But i cant agree, mustangs and jag-stangs stays in tune at least for me. i have 3 with the same original setup and it holds for me.

But then i agree most Squiers arent for me playing without doing something to them. Tuners or bridge.

And i dont like most of the stock pickups (mustang, jag-stang, strat or whatever) so i just change them.

weeping_moon just said that!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I've finally tried to set up the dynamic vibrato of my Squier Mustang with the help of a friend, without success; that's what we've done:
1) We have lowered the bridge and raised all the saddles in order to obtain a low action (NOTE: now the strings don't touch the two edges of the bridge);
2) We have removed the plate-bridge to check what kind of tension the springs had: they were already placed on the hardest tension, as Fakier suggested me;
3) We have lowered a little bit the wraparaound/stopbar/cylindrical bar (you know, that part of the bridge through which the strings go);
4) last, we have lubrificated the nut with graphite.
It seems that all this works have been useless: the guitar goes out of tune after a short time you play it. What should I do now? Any suggestion?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet!
Sonic blue is awesome
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