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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:16 pm    Post subject: Zachary guitars: wtf? Reply with quote

Dunno if this old news; the website looks like something from the late 90s so you all might have heard of this stuff years ago. I'm kinda intrigued about what the deal is with these things though.

As in, is this guy doing an elaborately-staged criticism of the guitar industry or is he simply a nutjob with a bad attitude? I wasn't sure how to take his, how should I say, interesting approach to marketing. I WON'T SELL YOU MY GUITARS UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE TO ME THAT YOU'RE WORTHY OF MY PRODUCTS sounds batshit, but if he's one of those artisans who operates on a one-off basis, maybe that sort of business model isn't dumb after all.

The only thing that makes me question the validity of the whole thing is this: where is the feedback and discussion of Zachary guitars from people who own and use them? Who actually plays one? The only Google results come from people who poke fun at his Maddox-meets-Ed-Roman grandstanding. It IS kinda funny though...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shit... where did they find this photo of me?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That guitar stand looks the absolute fucking tits.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you what they call a "gearhead" or what I call a "materialistic hack" who buys new toys constantly only to be unfulfilled and wanting to buy even more "things"?


THIS MAKES ME WANT TO BUY HIS GUITARS SO MUCH WHATTAGUY. dude!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading through his site, he sounds absolutely batshit insane. He writes walls of text that are so fucking crazy, it's impossible to read through it all without the aid of speed. Also, the insane amount of pictures he posts is crazy.

http://www.zacharyguitars.com/050312pics.htm

Walls of text, too many photographs, insane ramblings, overpriced douchebaggery...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul 'Zachary' K finally did it then...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where is the headstock....?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This guy. Nailed it. The Paul K one.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



why?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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why?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rather like his filthy porn and fuck you can do attitude. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Esquire article on Alex Csiky

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also released at the same time is another unbelievable piece of gear, the very high tech and totally revolutionary Zachary Carbon picks. You have not seen or used anything like it. Never buy another pick again, you don't need to. Never use any other pick, unless you're retarded.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the shit that I don't like.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BacchusPaul wrote:
That guitar stand looks the absolute fucking tits.


Surely that's not an invention, innovation or even remotely original? They've been around for decades. Maybe he invented the funny left side hook for his version.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Musician-s-Gear-A-Frame-Acoustic-Guitar-Stand-107227621-i1445913.gc?source=4WWRWXGP&kpid=107227621&cagpspn=pla

http://www.walmart.com/ip/12080290?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227001337791&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=17412469510&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem
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which one of you bastards sent me an ebay question asking if you can get teh kurdtz with that 64 mustang? Mad

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fran & paul are some of the original gangstas of the JS days when you'd have to say "phuck"
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think he's entitled to be as arsey as he wants, if people are buying his stuff, fair play to him. they look well made.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see where he's coming from in that Esquire article - the guy clearly knows a few things about building guitars, and presumably his moments of lucidity happen when his meds kick in or something. I think it's understandable that, if you're a skilled person taking the time and effort to build a musical instrument by hand, you want it to be used and appreciated as opposed to some blooz lawyer making a wall hanger out of it.

It's just...you have to prove your worthiness to him, but his only proof of the instrument being of quality is a series of close-up photos and walls of text full of expletives and insults. It seems pretty one-way and delusional to me.

The guitar stand part looks like a piss-take, pure and simple. Similarly, the article that makes fun of the Klon Centaur made me chuckle. The fact remains though that he's trying to be a genuine luthier/crastsman and call out the BS that permeates the industry, but he's doing it in a way that undermines any credibility he might otherwise have.

The headstocks look bloody awful to me, but I guess YMMV. Ten years ago I'd say I hated the look of a JM or a Jag!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MOTHERFUCKING TITS AND SHIT, L@@K AT THIS MOTHERFUCKING STAND. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THEN TURN AROUND AND WALK RIGHT BACK INTO PANSYVILLE HOMEY. FUCK! YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S MADE? NOT CHINA OR SOME SHIT, MOTHERFUCKING GERMANY BITCHES! THEY TOOK HITLER'S ASHES AND CUNTING SUPERMAN HIMSELF CRUSHED THEM INTO CARBON DIAMOND SOLID PIPES IN A UNIQUE A-FRAME DESIGN FIRST INVENTED BY STEPHEN HAWKING. NOT ONLY THAT, SUPERMAN MADE THIS BADBOY TEN-COCKING-TIMES BETTER BY BENDING THE FRONT BITS IN. IF YOU POP A CAP OFF THE LEGS YOU CAN FUCK IT TOO.

SHIT! IT EVEN HOLDS A SHITTY LOOKING GUITAR.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I don't get what's so special about those stands. I have two just like it already.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like that he points out that.
1.) fancy wood does not make a guitar sound any better
2.) thick poly finishes are very plastic like
but he kinda double fucks himself in the ass in the article by stating that wood doesn't matter, and proves it by using discaded pine(leo started out using pine)
and the goes on to say that pine resonates and tries to imply that an oil finish will let the tone of the instrument ring thru.
BULLSHIT!
ITS A SOLID BODY, BOLT ON GUITAR.
YOUR "TONE" COMES IN THE FORM OF A POTENTIOMETER VALUE!!!!
im fucking sick of hearing that crap. there is more tone in your picking style and playing style than there is in the difference of wood or finish, IN THE CONTEXT OF AN ELECTRIC SOLIDBODY BOLT ON GUITAR.
as far as acoustics go, thats another ballgame. different wood and finishes will affect the sound. as well as bracing styles. body depth etc etc.
the guy has a few points. but he uses them to stab himself in the cock.
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