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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:55 am    Post subject: USB Strat Reply with quote

this looks interesting, lets you go direct to comp/phone/tablet

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ipad-iphone-compatible-stratocaster-released-566554/1
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be worried about latency with the USB.

Also, iRig thing is still awesome.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
I'd be worried about latency with the USB.

Also, iRig thing is still awesome.


LOL.

Firstly do you know how iRig works? All it is is an impedance mismatcher. So your guitar goes:

Guitar -> IRig (convert to line level output) -> iPhone as LineIn -> Hardware+Software A/D -> Guitar DSP -> Hardware+Software D/A -> iPhone as headphone out -> iRig -> Earphones

A USB Strat would just have Hardware+Software A/D in the Guitar and then you have the chain as above.

Your latency isn't in the conversion steps, it's in the DSP in the iPhone which is invariant of the scheme used. USB is mega fast. My UA-1000 USB2.0 Audio interface can do 8 tracks in and 10 out simultaneously with no discernable latency

The USB Guitar will likely not suffer the noise/interference issues the iRig converter has.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I know how the iRig works. It's a means to get a guitar coming out of a tablet - same as this. None of that other shit matters in practicality.

It's literally a USB in a Strat. If you're keen enough to spend 160 and not be able to use it with any of your other guitars, you have my blessing.

They'd be better off making a separate breakout box.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
Yes I know how the iRig works. It's a means to get a guitar coming out of a tablet - same as this. None of that other shit matters in practicality.

It's literally a USB in a Strat. If you're keen enough to spend 160 and not be able to use it with any of your other guitars, you have my blessing.

They'd be better off making a separate breakout box.


it is a little more, all the gubbins in the guitar mean that you can use it for practicing with the headphones. For 160 its a nice little starter guitar in my book for any kids who don't have a smart phone but a family computer and want to mess about with recording ideas. The normal jack also being in it really helps as well
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get that but I'm now imagining non-PC-literate parents giving this to a 10 year old child and a shit storm occurring. Especially if the family computer is in the same room as the TV.

Also, it kind of irks me that new players would access the electric guitar in this way. Aside from it being a really homogenised experience of modern app culture, give them an arsenal of different settings like that and we'll be setting up a generation of pedantic knob twiddlers.

Just give all new starters a Gorilla amp, lock them in their room and they'll probably end up as good as Fran.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could it be used for Rocksmith?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any guitar can be used for Rocksmith.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
Any guitar can be used for Rocksmith.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ekwatts wrote:
Could it be used for Rocksmith?
Not bleedin' likely, from what I've read about people trying to get their copy of Rocksmith to work with any other USB device.

Behringer have made USB geetars for a while too. In fact, the obsolete model iAxe 393 with obsolete (non-registerable) Native Instruments Guitar Rig 4.0 on clearance at eBuyer for 54.99 with free delivery?? 16 in stock
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
Any guitar can be used for Rocksmith.

...as it comes with a jack-to-USB "cable"
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE LATENCY?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE LATENCY?


probably not as bad as your
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry, next time I'll spurt out some underinformed nonsense babble instead.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

George wrote:
I'd be worried about latency with the USB.

Mike wrote:
next time I'll spurt out some underinformed nonsense babble instead

shit mike. kill shot.

silly me, just spurting away like that.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Play nice boys.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I plug my guitar into a special cable adapter that allows me to play into my laptop. There must be a way to convert any guitar, vs. buying a special model with a poorly placed jack that may be obsolete in a few years at Apple's whimsy.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I plug my guitar into a massive valve amp and play it with my iPenis like real men should.
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