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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Vintage Time Machine will have the same Donald Pleasance in Fantastic Voyage switch as the VD-1 and will suck all the bite out of your tone while bypassed.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul_ wrote:
The Vintage Time Machine will have the same Donald Pleasance in Fantastic Voyage switch as the VD-1 and will suck all the bite out of your tone while bypassed.


Probably true, it's not like it's not an easy fix though.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DuoSonicBoy wrote:
I don't think Behringer's true bypass is really true. They advertised the VP-1 with the same language and I think it's a virtual buffered bypass.

A bad bypass at that, from the sound of it.

The VP-1 modulation could be heard in bypass only when I used hi gain pedal in front or behind it - twas ok if i just used high gain on the amp. Maybe the sound was leaking via the shared power supply, and could be fixed by using batteries or it's own power adapter?

Also yes I'm sure duosonic is correct; the footswitch is just a cheap clicky thing that when depressed, presses a button on the circuit board.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, like I said, it's because the effect is always hanging off your input signal, or it could be that a transistor isn't probably turned "off" in any electronic bypass circuitry.

You get a similar effect on the Boss SD-1
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, like I said, it's because the effect is always hanging off your input signal, or it could be that a transistor isn't probably turned "off" in any electronic bypass circuitry.

You get a similar effect on the Boss SD-1


the most annoying part of sd-1 ownership.

is the vintage series bypass similar to the standard range bypass, if it's buffered?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno, rather that throw around blazé conjecture, I wouldn't like to comment until I've opened a Vintage Time Machine up or at least seen some gutshots, but y'know - that's just me.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a Boss RC20-XL looper recently and I noticed something similar.

The guitar sounds a bit different going through the pedal, even if the pedal isn't doing anything.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the boss rt-20 does that as well, a noticeable top end drop too when connected.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
I dunno, rather that throw around blazé conjecture, I wouldn't like to comment until I've opened a Vintage Time Machine up or at least seen some gutshots, but y'know - that's just me.


you planning to purchase one?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Progrockabuse wrote:
Mike wrote:
I dunno, rather that throw around blazé conjecture, I wouldn't like to comment until I've opened a Vintage Time Machine up or at least seen some gutshots, but y'know - that's just me.


you planning to purchase one?


Maybe. At Ł53 it's a bit more of a head scratching purchase than it would be at Ł40. I will definitely try and hunt one down to play in Denmark St after they've been out a while.

I'm interested to see how good a job they've done. I have a latest EHX DMM which is the true bypass version.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didn't know you'd got a new DMM, i've been away from here too long. just trying to get back into things again. dam other half lol
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had it for ages like, more than 2 years. I took it to Doogfest I.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought you'd sold it when you stopped using a pedal board. silly me.

i'm torn between this and the standard vintage delay.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Vintage Delay is cheaper but it;s only 300ms. Check out my demo of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's the reason i want to get one, it sounds wicked in your demo. the only sound i use is the "run like hell" dotted eigth style sound.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found some pictures:






Small pics but I can see some things.

1. Those are real CoolAudio BBD Analog Delay chips on the face side of the board
2. SMD stuff on the reverse of the board, unsurprisingly.
3. The bypass uses a DPDT, clearly just output switching with an input buffer most likely.

The thing doesn't take up much room, I imagine we'll see people rehousing these and making them true bypass.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The size difference between that and a DMM board is immense.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. As I recall the DMM board takes up pretty much the whole of the case.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
The thing doesn't take up much room, I imagine we'll see people rehousing these and making them true bypass.

I totally don't need another delay, but if I was in the market, I'd probably get you to do this for me Mike.
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