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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:37 am    Post subject: Orange Amp Channel Switcher Reply with quote

I've and Orange Dual Terror. The Official footswitch is huge so im trying to build one to replace it that fits my pedal board better. I found some info and bought all the required parts it said to get based on this other forum post.
https://forum.orangeamps.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44757

I got the box all drilled and painted. Ordered the footswitch, jack (stereo), LED etc. I put it together and it didnt work at all.

I mostly followed this schematic.


I've a feeling i ordered the wrong DPDT switch. I wired it in according to the pattern shown. I'm not sure though if it matters which 4 posts and 2 posts on it i use when wiring it up? also the "120 Ohms to 1K - Individual (470 ohms)" im not sure what it means. i had ordered 470k ohms 1/4 watt resistor so that may be the problem there. I also thought it was odd the parts list called for a stereo 1/4" input jack rather than a mono. i have everything correct for sure except the footswitch, input jack and resistor. I'm good at following directions and using a soldering iron, but not so good with electronics knowledge in general. If anyone can help me out it'd be greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's a lot of work for nothing. Absolutely no point in wiring up all those green wires together, or that red stuff. In fact, it would work with a single pole single throw switch to do exactly the same thing.

But that pointless extra wiring wouldn't hurt I guess.

Maybe you wired the LED backwards.

Did you order a momentary or latching switch? Given the LED is there, I would think you need the latching type. However, if it is momentary, it would work if you keep your foot on it or use a brick for the channel that lights up the LED.

edit: also make sure the blades in pic are facing the same way. Basically you need one green wire to one of the middle lugs and one to the red lug that corresponds (on the same side). Wire the rest for lulz if you want. Makes no difference if you wire the switch upside-down.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fakir is spot on with his post, if it isn't the LED or the switch being wired wrong then maybe you have the stereo jack wired incorrectly. According to this diagram you only need a mono jack but the stereo will work.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm. I didnt think the LED was directional at all. I did notice one wire off of it was shorter than the other though. I'm going to order a mono jack and a new latching switch. As far as the resistor though... how important is that? Will the 470kohm 1/4 work? Thanks again for all the help!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stereo jack and DPDT switch will work though, you just don't have to wire all the lugs.

And it probably isn't momentary if it wasn't sold as such. I don't know how much of a pedal noob you are, but if there's a strong tactile click like MXR pedals, it's not momentary.

LEDs are DIODES. Their purpose is to regulate flow in one direction. Why do you think they put a + and - in the diagram on the diode?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hmm. I didnt think the LED was directional at all. I did notice one wire off of it was shorter than the other though. I'm going to order a mono jack and a new latching switch. As far as the resistor though... how important is that? Will the 470kohm 1/4 work? Thanks again for all the help!
Diodes only pass current one way so if you're powering it from a battery or DC adaptor yes, that will matter. Also 470k seems way huge for an LED dropper resistor. If it's running off a 9v supply I'd expect it to be in the ballpark of 10k depending on how bright you want it to be.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mattsican wrote:
Hmm. I didnt think the LED was directional at all. I did notice one wire off of it was shorter than the other though. I'm going to order a mono jack and a new latching switch. As far as the resistor though... how important is that? Will the 470kohm 1/4 work? Thanks again for all the help!
Diodes only pass current one way so if you're powering it from a battery or DC adaptor yes, that will matter. Also 470k seems way huge for an LED dropper resistor. If it's running off a 9v supply I'd expect it to be in the ballpark of 10k depending on how bright you want it to be.


The power for the LED comes from the amp itself, maybe the larger resistor takes into account a larger current draw? But if the pedal doesn't work then it's the switch and jack that is junk. Make sure you have the sleeve and tip of the jack wired up correctly, there are a few similar schematics to the one you found online.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corporate proxy server is blocking the pics referred to on orangeforum.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fakir Mustache wrote:
Stereo jack and DPDT switch will work though, you just don't have to wire all the lugs.

And it probably isn't momentary if it wasn't sold as such. I don't know how much of a pedal noob you are, but if there's a strong tactile click like MXR pedals, it's not momentary.

LEDs are DIODES. Their purpose is to regulate flow in one direction. Why do you think they put a + and - in the diagram on the diode?



I honestly didnt even see the + and - until you just brought it up now hah. I'll keep that in mind when i give this another shot.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So im thinking if i use this

It should work yeah?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

any word?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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any word?


I built it, but haven't had a chance to get to the practice space to try it on my amp yet. I'll update w/pics once i know for sure it works.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are the pictures. Started with a bare aluminum box and drilled the holes, then painted. Followed the wiring diagram i modified based on feedback everyone has given me here. I won't be able to try it out until tonight.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey, at least it looks really cool! clean, too!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was able to try it out and it worked perfect! The LED is a bit dim, but it's actually better that way i think. Thanks to everyone for their help!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mattsican wrote:
I was able to try it out and it worked perfect! The LED is a bit dim, but it's actually better that way i think. Thanks to everyone for their help!


To brighten the LED up you could change the resistor for a lower value. Does the LED flicker or turn off occasionally? I found my Orange footswitch did this sometimes.
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Mattsican wrote:
I was able to try it out and it worked perfect! The LED is a bit dim, but it's actually better that way i think. Thanks to everyone for their help!


To brighten the LED up you could change the resistor for a lower value. Does the LED flicker or turn off occasionally? I found my Orange footswitch did this sometimes.


I assumed that is why it wasn't that bright. I do a lot of two hand tapping while switching effects on my board. It gets distracting while playing in a dark venue to have the bright ass light on in the background while trying to see what I'm playing. So that's actually a welcome result.

The LED doesn't flicker or anything. It never did on my original orange footswitch either.
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